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Platinum
Overall challenge tier

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Challenge Progress
Earned and progressed challenges
274 cached challenges

Gets The Wurm
#51,688 | Top 1.3% | 104
#51,688

Ladder placement

Dragon Hunt
#3,381 | Top 0.1% | 36
#3,381

Ladder placement

Do These Things Have Souls?
#63,189 | Top 1.6% | 121,869
#63,189

Ladder placement

A Honeyfruit a Day: 2024 Split 3
Top 5.8% | 34,968
Restore health through map-based healing sources

Immediate Immobilization
#69,352 | Top 1.8% | 27,739
#69,352

Ladder placement

The Jukes!
#17,010 | Top 0.4% | 3,717
#17,010

Ladder placement

Darkness is Everywhere
#148,741 | Top 3.9% | 3,133
#148,741

Ladder placement

Dinner's Ready
#45,580 | Top 1.2% | 2,883
#45,580

Ladder placement

Turret Toppler
#65,368 | Top 1.7% | 1,812
#65,368

Ladder placement

Determination
Top 1.4% | 1,395
Earn progress from challenges in the Monster Hunter, Steadfast, and Symbiosis groups

Master of the Rift
#60,040 | Top 1.6% | 1,288
#60,040

Ladder placement

Making the Dream Work
#132,435 | Top 3.4% | 810
#132,435

Ladder placement

Stun n Gun: 2024 Split 2
Top 4.5% | 656
Immobilize then takedown an enemy with an ally

Champion
Top 5.2% | 620
Earn progress from challenges in the Champion group

Steadfast
Top 2.9% | 400
Earn progress from challenges in the Steadfast group

Symbiosis
Top 0.9% | 300
Earn progress from challenges in the Symbiosis group

Global Defense System
#16 | Top 0.1% | 236
#16

Ladder placement

Support Diff
#63,094 | Top 1.6% | 176
#63,094

Ladder placement

Mid Diff
#65,505 | Top 1.7% | 176
#65,505

Ladder placement

The Fire Rises: 2024 Split 2
Top 6.1% | 175
Collect Infernal Cinders

Jungle Diff
#73,554 | Top 1.9% | 162
#73,554

Ladder placement

Spice of Life
Top 5.3% | 159
Obtain <em>champions</em>

Soul Sweep
#72,194 | Top 1.9% | 97
#72,194

Ladder placement

Incandescent
Top 5.4% | 70
Obtain <em>mage champions</em>

Nullify the Void: 2024 Split 2
Top 4.6% | 66
Takedown Void Monsters

Incredible Value
#142,626 | Top 3.7% | 60
#142,626

Ladder placement

Can't Miss
#51,925 | Top 1.3% | 56
#51,925

Ladder placement

Unkillable Demon King
#45,616 | Top 1.2% | 54
#45,616

Ladder placement

No Capstone Unturned
Top 4.3% | 53
Reach Gold tier on Capstones

Invulnerable
Top 6% | 45
Obtain <em>tank champions</em>

Nice Try: 2024 Split 2
Top 5.8% | 43
Kill enemies under your own turret

Global Defense System: 2024 Split 3
Top 6.6% | 41
Have a control ward in enemy jungle for 65+% of the game

Inspiring
Top 7.7% | 39
Obtain <em>support champions</em>

No Loyalty Among Dragons
Top 2.9% | 38
Take Elder Dragons when enemy has the Dragon Soul

Ingenious
Top 5.3% | 30
Obtain <em>marksman champions</em>

Dedicated Master: 2024 Split 3
Top 3.3% | 27
Earn Mastery Milestones

Lane Domination: 2024 Split 3
Top 4.7% | 26
Be up 20% gold and XP at 14min

It Has "Ultimate" In the Name!
#167,775 | Top 4.4% | 23
#167,775

Ladder placement

Hold That Pose
#48,689 | Top 1.3% | 19
#48,689

Ladder placement

Comeback Kids
Top 2.4% | 16
Win after being down 15 kills

Open Victory
Top 6.4% | 14
Win with an open nexus

DPS Threat
#321,044 | Top 8.3% | 14
#321,044

Ladder placement

Darkness Distributor: 2024 Split 2
Top 3.8% | 13
Takedown the most wards in a game

Prodigy
Top 4.4% | 12
Become Legendary within 15 minutes

One Stone: 2024 Split 3
Top 2.7% | 12
Kill two players with the same ability cast

Immortal
Top 4% | 11
Win a game with more than eight kills without dying

Team Diff
#25,134 | Top 0.7% | 10
#25,134

Ladder placement

Dragon's Fury
Top 1.9% | 10
Get multikills with Elder Dragon

Get Over Here
#52,728 | Top 1.4% | 8
#52,728

Ladder placement

Flawless Victory
Top 8.3% | 4
Win a Perfect Game

Get Paid, and Get Out
Top 5.4% | 13,570,289
Earn gold

Ability Abuse
Top 5.3% | 254,265
Use Abilities

Little Inanimate Spies
Top 3.6% | 10,700
Place Stealth Wards

Team Takedown
Top 4.5% | 10,020
Get picks with at least one ally

Above-Average Assistance
Top 4% | 8,157
Get Assists

Hard Day's Killin'
Top 3.9% | 5,586
Get Kills

Stun n Gun
Top 3.6% | 5,129
Immobilize then take down an enemy with an ally

Go Where You Please
Top 5.4% | 2,611
Tank three immobilizing effects in a fight and survive

Medal of Honor
Top 4.2% | 1,850
Earn progress from challenges in the Executioner, Commando, Resourceful, and Mystic groups

Goodbye to the Darkness!
Top 5.8% | 1,559
Place Control Wards

Insec-urity Breach
Top 4.2% | 1,427
Knock back enemies to your team and get a takedown

No Quarter
Top 4.3% | 1,419
Kill champions under their own turret

Brush Fanatic
Top 4.2% | 1,225
Get takedowns with an ally after hiding in brush for 3+s

Captain
Top 3.4% | 1,080
Earn progress from challenges in the Strategy, Demolition, Synergy, and Team Spirit groups

Lizard Hunting
Top 3.7% | 1,027
Take down Dragons

Fun with Friends
Top 3.7% | 1,010
Play games with a group

Ascendant
Top 4% | 1,010
Earn progress from challenges in the Domination, Unrivaled, and Perfection groups

Killing Spree Spree
Top 5.2% | 640
Get killing sprees

2024 Seasonal: Split 3
Top 4.8% | 580
Earn points from challenges in the 2024 Seasonal: Split 3 group

2024 Seasonal: Split 2
Top 5.2% | 530
Earn progress from challenges in the 2024 Seasonal: Split 2 group

Nice Try
Top 3.7% | 525
Kill enemies under your own turret

Commando
Top 3.3% | 485
Earn progress from challenges in the Commando group

Resourceful
Top 5.2% | 480
Earn progress from challenges in the Resourceful group

Executioner
Top 4.3% | 445
Earn progress from challenges in the Executioner group

Monster Hunter
Top 5.3% | 435
Earn progress from challenges in the Monster Hunter group

Damage Dispenser
Top 4.3% | 432
Deal over 700 Damage Per Minute

Mastermind
Top 4% | 395
Earn progress from challenges in the Cornerstone and Visionary groups

The Brush Has Eyes
Top 4.6% | 381
Finish a game up 20% Vision Score

Ace
Top 2% | 365
Earn progress from challenges in the Ace group

Strategy
Top 4.6% | 345
Earn progress from challenges in the Strategy group

Perfection
Top 5.3% | 300
Earn progress from challenges in the Perfection group

Flair
Top 3.4% | 300
Earn progress from challenges in the Flair group

Ward Ward-en
Top 6.1% | 291
Protect wards

Golden
Top 3.8% | 278
Have more than 450 gold per minute in a game

Domination
Top 4% | 265
Earn progress from challenges in the Domination group

Unrivaled
Top 3.6% | 265
Earn progress from challenges in the Unrivaled group

Synergy
Top 3.7% | 255
Earn progress from challenges in the Synergy group

Wurm Fishing
Top 5.3% | 243
Take down Barons

Adept
Top 4.9% | 225
Earn progress from challenges in the Adept group

Top Performer
Top 5.4% | 208
Earn S- grades or higher

Baron Power Play
Top 5.2% | 204
Generate 2500 gold advantage with Baron Buff

Flawless Ace
Top 4.3% | 202
Ace the enemy team with no allied deaths

Mystic
Top 5% | 200
Earn progress from challenges in the Mystic group

Visionary
Top 6% | 185
Earn progress from challenges in the Visionary group

Farm Champs not Camps
Top 3.3% | 178
As jungler, get kills on laners before 10 minutes

Support Subsidy
Top 2.3% | 172
Fully complete your support quest in 14 minutes

Team Spirit
Top 4.5% | 170
Earn progress from challenges in the Team Spirit group

Bouncer
Top 2.2% | 166
Get the highest crowd control score in the game

Tactician
Top 3.1% | 160
Earn progress from challenges in the Tactician group

Dragon On Too Long
Top 2% | 158
Take down first dragon before eight minutes

Shattered Plates
Top 3.1% | 139
Destroy turrets before plates fall

On Another Level
Top 3.9% | 138
Be up three more levels than role opponent at any point

Shoddy Construction
Top 5% | 136
Take down the first turret

Pain Prescriber
Top 3.7% | 126
Deal the most damage to champions in the game

Bloodcrazed
Top 5% | 121
Get First Bloods

Target Selection
Top 4.7% | 116
Take down junglers near a damaged Epic Monster

Lane Domination
Top 4.3% | 106
Be up 20% gold and XP at 14min

Lane Command
Top 4.2% | 78
Be up 20% gold and XP at 7min

Uninhibited
Top 4.4% | 69
Win after losing an inhibitor

Indomitable
Top 6.6% | 54
Obtain <em>fighter champions</em>

One Stone
Top 3% | 51
Kill two players with one ability cast

Invisible
Top 6.6% | 42
Obtain <em>assassin champions</em>

Malfunction
Top 7.9% | 38
Win games

Clean Clears
Top 2.8% | 23
Get 70 CS from jungle monsters before 10 minutes

Meat Shield
Top 2.8% | 23
Win the game taking at least 35% of team damage

That'll Machine Learn You
Top 0.5% | 15
Destroy all 3 inhibitors in under 25 minutes

Pocket Picks: 2024 Split 3
Top 2.1% | 15
Complete a Mastery Set

Right Under Their Noses
Top 4.6% | 11
Recall while unseen by a nearby champion

Draconic Extinction
Top 9.7% | 6
Kill two Elder Dragons in a single game

We're Good Over Here
Top 4% | 5
Win with a 5-stack with 3+ <em>poke champs</em>

Overwhelming Presence
Top 4.8% | 3
As a laner, in 1 game, get kills outside your lane before 10 min

Can of Wurms
Top 10.7% | 1
Kill three Barons in a single game

Wise Master
Top 7.4% | 1,389,748
Earn Mastery Points

Field Medic
Top 4.1% | 687,989
Effectively heal or shield allies

Everyone Pays!
Top 5.8% | 156,971
Earn bounty gold

One-Trick
Top 7.5% | 113,444
Gain Mastery Points on a single champion

TEAMWORK
Top 5.2% | 3,300
TEAMWORK capstone

EXPERTISE
Top 6.9% | 3,060
EXPERTISE capstone

VETERANCY
Top 6.2% | 2,605
VETERANCY capstone

Solo Bolo
Top 4.3% | 1,391
Get solo kills

IMAGINATION
Top 6.2% | 1,250
IMAGINATION capstone

COLLECTION
Top 5.8% | 1,220
COLLECTION capstone

Might
Top 6% | 1,060
Earn progress from challenges in the Flair, Behemoth, Slayer, and Predator groups

Never Tell Me the Odds
Top 5.4% | 881
Get kills while outnumbered

Scuttle Along Now
Top 3.4% | 835
Kill scuttle crabs

Sage
Top 2.7% | 655
Earn progress from challenges in the Guru, Virtuoso, and Ace groups

Cleverness and Creativity
Top 6.4% | 610
Earn progress from challenges in the Style, Innovation, and Tactician groups

Multikill Madness
Top 6% | 509
Get Multikills

Harmony
Top 4.2% | 475
Earn progress from challenges in the Harmony group

Predator
Top 3.2% | 260
Earn progress from challenges in the Predator group

Overachiever
Top 5.9% | 215
Earn progress from challenges in the Overachiever group

Innovation
Top 6.1% | 210
Earn progress from challenges in the Innovation group

Slayer
Top 6.1% | 205
Earn progress from challenges in the Slayer group

A Drake and a Hard Place
Top 5.1% | 199
Kill opponents with help from an Epic monster

Splitpush Strategy
Top 4% | 191
Take side lane turrets solo without dying

Target Secured
Top 3.7% | 136
Secure Epic Monsters with the enemy jungler nearby

Been Here a While
Top 7.1% | 133
Increase your summoner level

Behemoth
Top 7.7% | 115
Earn progress from challenges in the Behemoth group

Cornerstone
Top 4.1% | 110
Earn progress from challenges in the Cornerstone group

Bot Diff
Top 3.3% | 106
Win games as a Bot Carry

Style
Top 7.9% | 100
Earn progress from challenges in the Style group

Challenges are Forever
Top 4.3% | 96
Reach Diamond tier on different challenges

Demolition
Top 2.8% | 90
Earn progress from challenges in the Demolition group

Synchronicity
Top 3.1% | 85
Earn progress from challenges in the Synchronicity group

Alcove Gaming
Top 4.9% | 79
Take down opponents in the alcove

Entitled
Top 5.4% | 67
Earn titles from challenges

Legendary Legend
Top 6.6% | 46
Become Legendary

Level 1 Fiesta
Top 5.4% | 45
Get takedowns before jungle camps spawn

Aggressive Positioning
Top 4.8% | 41
Get multikills after flashing towards an enemy

Invincible
Top 2.4% | 30
Win without dying with <em>different champions</em>

Not Even a Scratch
Top 6.7% | 25
Take 10k damage in a fight and survive

Who Needs 'Em
Top 14.5% | 13
Win a game despite an AFK teammate

Death Incarnate
Top 3.9% | 13
Take down 12 champions within 15 minutes

They Just... Don't... DIE!
Top 2.6% | 4
Win with a 5-stack of 3+ champions that <em>defy death</em>

Victorious Regalia
Top 4.5% | 3
Collect <em>victorious champion skins</em>

Lightning Round
Top 10.7% | 3
Win games before 13 min

Double Ace
Top 5.8% | 1
Have both teams be aced in the same fight

Dine In
Top 3.8% | 18,950 / 30,000
Kill jungle monsters in your jungle

Dine Out
Top 4.2% | 1,534 / 4,000
Kill jungle monsters in the enemy jungle

Alliance
Top 3% | 640 / 1,030
Earn progress from challenges in the Clash, Synchronicity, Harmony, and Globetrotter groups

Give 'em Shell, Shelly
Top 8.2% | 595 / 750
Take turrets with Rift Herald

ARAM Authority
Top 10.3% | 360 / 590
Earn progress from challenges in the ARAM Warrior, ARAM Finesse, and ARAM Champion groups

Buff Burglar
Top 5.8% | 281 / 360
Take enemy buffs

ARAM Warrior
Top 11.7% | 155 / 185
Earn progress from challenges in the ARAM Warrior group

Shell Collecting
Top 7.5% | 140 / 180
Take down Rift Heralds

Movin' On Up
Top 5.9% | 136 / 150
Win ranked games in Solo/Duo or Flex queue

Guru
Top 6.5% | 130 / 160
Earn progress from challenges in the Guru group

Magnum Opus
Top 7.2% | 125 / 160
Earn progress from challenges in the Magnum Opus group

Darkness Distributer
Top 8% | 117 / 120
Take down the most wards in the game

Superior Supporting
Top 3.8% | 106 / 150
Finish your support quest faster than your opponent

Machine-Hunting Mercenary
Top 8.1% | 90 / 120
Earn progress from challenges in the Machine-Hunting Mercenary group

KDA Player
Top 6.2% | 80 / 125
Get a KDA over 3 in Solo/Duo Queue

Jack of All Champs
Top 2.8% | 77 / 100
Win games with <em>different champions</em>

Glorious Evolution
Top 0.7% | 75 / 120
Earn progress from challenges in the Glorious Evolution group

Treasure
Top 8.1% | 75 / 110
Earn progress from challenges in the Treasure group

Icon of the Rift
Top 10% | 71 / 100
Obtain Summoner Icons

Emotive
Top 10.1% | 57 / 80
Obtain emotes

Crab Wrangler
Top 3.9% | 55 / 75
Take both of the first scuttle crab spawns

Not Even Close
Top 25.1% | 47
Survive champion combat on single digit health

Masterful Performance
Top 5.3% | 46 / 75
Reach Masters tier on different challenges

All-Seeing
Top 5.9% | 46 / 75
Have over 2 vision score per minute

Fashion Forward
Top 8.4% | 39 / 75
Collect champion skins

Leading by Example
Top 4.4% | 39 / 90
Get an assist streak of 12+ without dying

Get On My Level
Top 8.1% | 25 / 30
Get takedowns after gaining an early level advantage

Let's Make This Quick
Top 19.1% | 23
Destroy the enemy nexus in less than 15 minutes

The Most Dangerous Game
Top 3.7% | 18 / 35
As jungler, kill the enemy jungler in their jungle before 10 minutes

Blink and You'll Miss It
Top 5.7% | 17 / 40
Kill champions from full health in 1.5 seconds

Three Buffed
Top 3.8% | 15 / 25
Take 3 of the first 4 buff camps

Protean Override
Top 5.3% | 15 / 30
Win games with <em>different champions</em>

Top Performer: 2024 Split 2
Top 5% | 14 / 16
Earn S- grade or higher

Lethal Efficiency
Top 8.2% | 13
Kill 80 minions within 10 minutes

Ten Minute Turret
Top 1.1% | 11 / 40
Destroy the first turret in under 10 minutes

Clutch Steal
Top 5.4% | 11 / 25
Steal Epic monsters

Ward Skin Collector
Top 8.8% | 10 / 20
Obtain ward skins

TY for Leash
Top 5.3% | 10 / 20
Steal an Epic Monster without Smite

All Random All Flawless
Top 9% | 10 / 20
Earn S grades or higher

Flame Horizon
Top 5.4% | 8
Win games with 100+ more CS than role opponent

Ladder Climber
Top 7.4% | 6 / 9
Earn rank in Solo/Duo Queue

Plant Tactics
Top 9.1% | 6
Use blast cones to escape enemies

Ward Hunter
Top 8.7% | 6
Destroy 10 wards before 20 minutes

Whose Lane is it Anyway
Top 5.6% | 2
As a laner, get takedowns in all lanes before 10min

Solo Carry
Top 8.7% | 2
Deal 40%+ of your team's champion damage

Nowhere to Hide
Top 7.7% | 2
Win with a 5-stack of <em>champs with 3+ global abilities</em>

Winhibitors
Top 10.7% | 1
Destroy all three enemy inhibitors in under 25 minutes

Happy Feet
Top 10.4% | 1
Dance with the Rift Herald in the enemy base

Where'd They Go?
Top 3% | 1
Win with a 5-stack with 3+ <em>champs with stealth</em>

I'm Helping
Top 0.7% | 1
Win with a 5-stack of champs with 3+ <em>champs with terrain creation</em>

Connoisseur
Top 10% | 125 / 150
Earn progress from challenges in the Connoisseur group

That Was Close
Top 6.4% | 101 / 150
Save an ally with a heal or shield

ARAM Champion
Top 14.9% | 90 / 100
Earn progress from challenges in the ARAM Champion group

Virtuoso
Top 5.2% | 60 / 100
Earn progress from challenges in the Virtuoso group

ARAM Finesse
Top 11.5% | 60 / 90
Earn progress from challenges in the ARAM Finesse group

Always On Time
Top 5.9% | 43 / 50
Kill Epic Monsters within 30 seconds of spawn

Player Diff
Top 2% | 36 / 40
Win games queued as Fill

Perfectionist
Top 5.4% | 25 / 30
Earn an S+ grade with <em>different champions</em>

Champion Ocean: 2024 Split 3
Top 6.1% | 19 / 20
Win games with <em>different champions</em>

Best Friends Forever
Top 1.6% | 18 / 25
Get wins with a premade of 5

Fashionista
Top 6.4% | 10 / 15
Collect chromas

Nowhere is Safe
Top 15.7% | 6
Take down champions in their fountain

That Drip
Top 8.9% | 3 / 4
Collect many skins for a single champion

Captain Jack
Top 7.2% | 3
Cleanse an immobilizing effect within 0.25s

Damage Sponge
Top 11.8% | 1
In one fight, get kills while tanking all five enemies and survive

It was a... Near-Hit
Top 13.5% | 3,369 / 3,600
Dodge skillshots

Another Day, Another Bullseye
Top 12.5% | 1,706 / 2,500
Hit skillshots on champions

Free Money
Top 12.7% | 1,427 / 2,250
Kill minions

Farm Champs Not Minions
Top 12.5% | 1,313 / 2,000
Get Takedowns

Snow Day
Top 12.9% | 133 / 150
Hit snowballs on champions

No Hiding
Top 13.2% | 117 / 125
Kill enemies near one of their turrets

Power Pair
Top 4.5% | 58 / 60
Win with a premade party of two in a ranked queue

Fashionably Late
Top 6.8% | 48 / 50
Get a takedown after teleporting to a >4 champion fight

Top Diff
Top 6.9% | 47 / 50
Win games as Top

Fancy Garb
Top 9.5% | 19 / 25
Collect <em>epic champion skins</em>

Master Yourself
Top 5.5% | 19 / 30
Earn Mastery 5 on <em>different champions</em>

NA-RAM
Top 12.2% | 17 / 35
Win games

Master the Enemy (Legacy)
Top 5% | 10 / 15
Earn Mastery 7 on <em>different champions</em>

All Random All Champions
Top 11.1% | 9 / 15
Earn an S- grade on <em>different champions</em>

Recursive
Top 5.4% | 7 / 10
Complete collection challenges

Bad Medicine
Top 13.1% | 6 / 7
Kill enemies recently healed by a health pack

Master Mage (Legacy)
Top 3.5% | 5 / 12
Get Mastery 7 on different <em>mages</em>

Get Bo(t)died
Top 2.6% | 4 / 6
Win Co-Op vs. AI games without dying & 20% kill participation

Master Support (Legacy)
Top 3.6% | 4 / 5
Get Mastery 7 on different <em>supports</em>

Legendary Wardrobe
Top 8.5% | 3 / 7
Collect <em>legendary champion skins</em>

Master Support
Top 1.6% | 3 / 5
Get Mastery 10 on different <em>supports</em>

Free Ticket to Base
Top 10.2% | 1
Execute to turret before 10 min

Pop Goes the Poro
Top 6.9% | 1
Cause a Poro to explode

Robo Recall
Top 35.2% | 144 / 150
Get kills

Sparkles & Fireworks: 2024 Split 2
Top 3.4% | 5 / 15
Participate in Fistbumps in matchmade games

Vintage Look
Top 18% | 4 / 10
Collect <em>legacy champion skins</em>

Mile Marker
Top 7.5% | 4 / 7
Earn milestones on any Eternal

Master Fighter (Legacy)
Top 8.2% | 4 / 5
Get Mastery 7 on different <em>fighters</em>

No Hiding: 2024 Split 3
Top 6.7% | 4 / 8
Kill enemies near one of their own turrets

Master the Enemy
Top 4.9% | 3 / 7
Earn Mastery 10 on <em>different champions</em>

Master Assassin (Legacy)
Top 7.8% | 3 / 5
Get Mastery 7 on different <em>assassins</em>

Go Shelly Go!
Top 14.3% | 2 / 5
Take 2 turrets with the same Rift Herald

Master Tank (Legacy)
Top 7% | 2 / 3
Get Mastery 7 on different <em>tanks</em>

Master Marksman (Legacy)
Top 6.7% | 2 / 3
Get Mastery 7 on different <em>marksmen</em>

Master Mage
Top 6.2% | 2 / 5
Get Mastery 10 on different <em>mages</em>

Formal Attire
Top 11.3% | 1 / 3
Collect <em>mythic champion skins</em>

Error 410: Jungler Gone
Top 3.4% | 1 / 2
As jungler, kill the enemy jungler in their jungle before 10 min

Master Tank
Top 4.4% | 1 / 3
Get Mastery 10 on different <em>tanks</em>

Rapid Demolition
Top 14.9% | 1 / 2
Take the first turret before 5 min

Experience
Top 100% | 5 / 10
Earn progress from challenges in the Experience group

Old Friends
Top 100% | 4 / 5
Achieve milestones on Eternals for a single champion

Forever Triumphant
Top 100% | 1
End season splits ranked Gold or higher